Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles returns late 2010!?!?
I can only say that for now, take this story as only a rumor, but what a rumor it is. As great as this story is, it only becomes official with studio or network word, something I don't see happening anytime soon or if at all.
She's controversial, funny, successful, hated, but I've come to enjoy trading emails and learning to appreciate her - Lanie Grace is a big fan of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles and over the last year, has reported its cancellation as well as a script review of the season 2 finale which turned out to be largely different than what actually aired. However, it should be noted that much of her script review was similar to what actually aired. That review brought Grace nothing but backlash from rabid fans (including myself) and since then, grief from those who think of her as nothing but an Internet leech or "troll" - well, she's not! She is, in fact, very kind, helpful, and is only voicing her opinion as the rest of us do. Some can't win, however. In short, I've learned to respect her and am glad to call her a friend of NFD.
Last night, while I was droning at work, I began thinking of Terminator: TSCC and started feeling a bit of withdrawal because it's canceled, a subject that still gets me very angry. To my surprise, once I came home, I looked at my email inbox to find an email pointing me to a new hopeful post for the future of this television franchise.
"I've learned that at a minimum there are plans to pickup where TSCC left off and go straight to DVD as a T5 warm up although a relaunched TSCC series is not out of the works depending on a wide variety of things," Grace says in her post. "The goal would be for the series and T5 to form a merge point in a future timeline. The plan is to possibly start production in late 2010 or early 2011. Most of the cast will already be on board due to contract clauses from the orifinal series from what I understood."
The thing I find interesting is that Terminator 5 is possible especially after the critical and financial failure, domestic at least. Here are the facts; Terminator Salvation cost $200 million to make. Domestically, it brought in $124.5 million. Internationally, it brought in $241.2 million. In total, Terminator Salvation made an overall profit for $365.7 million. The point is, it did make enough to warrant a sequel but at risk. Terminator Salvation failed domestically because of bad buzz, at least in my opinion. I personally hated the film and I wasn't the only one and it shows in the box office. If I was in charge of green lighting films and Terminator 5 came across my desk, I'd think about it because there's still a chance at making money, however, it would need a total change in powers - no McG, new writers - not the idiots who wrote Catwoman, and a story that brought true character development to the real star of the film, John Connor and his struggle to save the human race. To put it simply, the story, chemistry, and direction of The Sarah Connor Chronciles would have been the ideal for a film.
When talking to her source she was told that "history shows that America wasn't amused when the formula for Coke was changed and they weren't amused with Salvation, we heard, we listened and felt the pain."
"There was a group that convinced the powers that be that the franchise needed to mature past the story lines of machines verses humans and concentrate more on the human side and the saga of surviving ... and then there were the ones that wanted a TSCC style lead in for the future of the movies," the source continued. "Needless to say, the human story failed big time. TSCC will be back and the story line will continue."
Grace also says that it "is a 99.9% certainty that [series creator] Josh Friedman and crew will have nothing to do with future TSCC productions," a notion that makes her very happy considering her grievances against Friedman and his creative directions. To be honest, I don't agree with her - I'd personally like Friedman to continue with the franchise, only with the proper direction from the studio or network. That is, the story about John Connor with strong support from Cameron (Summer Glau), Derek (Brian Austin Green), and the others, without making the project about Sarah Connor's (Lena Headey) mental issues. We want action, chemistry, struggle against the future, depth, and we want them to break our hearts and make us love those characters. And Friedman is capable of that because he's done it in the series, granted a few directional mistakes but all shows have done that including Battlestar Galactica.
So is there a possibility for a continuation of one of the greatest series since Babylon 5? I really hope so and if Grace and her sources are accurate, we as fans, need to continue to surge the network and studios with the message that we want more! We need to articulate that we want more from the The Sarah Connor Chronicles, NOT McG time because he's proven himself to be a pretty bad director. Even if this story is untrue and the sources are incorrect, spread it around anyways because it's still a message to revive a fantastic series. Honestly, where would we be without Summer Glau. Who would have thought that David Silver would be one of the most bad ass characters as Derek Reese on television. The hot queen chick from 300 brings justice and expansion to Sarah Connor. A boy begins his journey to destiny as the future leader of the human race... c'mon, that's what Terminator is all about, not McG's "awesome" vision of Christian Bale screaming "I'm John Connor" in his Batman voice. Just as a side note, Bale is still a great Connor but without having a director who knows how to direct actors, we got Batman vs. The Terminators.
I, of course, will bring you more once more is released. Again, for now, it's only a rumor.
To read the whole story head on over to Lanie Grace's site FMQINC.com.
Check out this kick ass clip someone made up from Youtube.
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The cast had great chemistry and I would like to see them in a whole new action flick together rather than a terminator franchise mash up.
Personally I prefer Josh Friedman to continue on with TSCC franchise.
I wish the rumor to be true. More TSCC on the way… even on Direct to DVD. I’ll buy it!
To everyone - Josh’s final blog comment on the Fox TSCC forums (don’t know if you guys read it) basically said he was closing the book on this part of his life, and he wouldn’t open it again. Apparently he doesn’t deal with failure well. So if TSCC does come back, I already knew it would take place without Josh.
As much as I’d miss his ingenuitive ideas, I’m SICK of Psycho-Sara and her cancer plotline. If this happens - and I’m not for a moment thinking Warner Brothers is this nice, btw, but IF - I’d like to see what someone else does with it. I think the real key here would be to get the other writers back, especially Zack Stentz and whomever wrote Alison from Palmdale. I really think that this was a savvy group of writers who really know the Terminator mythos, and I’d be very sad to see them go.
Because the downside of losing Friedman is, they might hire back the friggin’ Catwoman writers again!!!!?!?! (Yes, they wrote the original draft of Salvation and it still had their funk on it.) Or worse they might hire someone who doesn’t care about Terminator or what it means to us. I really want this show to breathe life again if it can *keep* the quality it had before.
This news brings me good news and bad news all in one breath.
I agree with Soran, though. Friedman gone would be a good thing IF we can keep the majority of the writing staff.
Please, God, PLEASE let this show come back.
And not suck. Don’t forget that part.
um, your math skills are lacking and your knowledge of industry costs are abysmal, dude, and apparently so is this lanie chick. here, let me break it down for you: $124.5 domestic + $241.2 in worldwide grosses minus $200 million production costs does NOT translate to an “overall profit” of $365.7 million. it translates to $165 million gross. that’s GROSS. subtract the heavy advertising cost, which for big blockbusters like this, is usually north of half the production budget. to be very generous, call it $100 million for advertising (though it’s probably more like $150 million for stateside and international), and that leaves you with $65 million gross. now subtract the split with the theaters, and you’re looking at around $30 million in profit. and again, i’m being very generous when i say the advertising only costs $100 million. then you add in the critical pounding the film took, and there ain’t gonna be no friggin’ $200-million dollar sequel, and there ain’t gonna be no tv direct-to-dvd sequels. lanie, as nice a person as she is, has absolutely no idea what she’s talking about. but hey, i’m sure she’s a nice person. it would be nice if she wasn’t talking out of her butt, though.
Oh, ok smart ass, so you know better than everybody else. Good for you, and you basically proved my point, which was a sequel to T4 is slim at best. Yea, it made little profit overall, but it still made profit although the studio was hoping for much more. If they see an opportunity for a better picture, more critically acclaimed, they’ll go for it. Besides, who ever said a sequel would be $200 million? Your just guessing.
Secondly, I said treat this as a “RUMOR”. So don’t blame Lanie because a source informed her of something - of all people, she knows it may not be true, but she’s hopeful and because she’s a fan she wants to let people in on what she found out. If someone who works in the business told you something like that, wouldn’t you post it on the net even at the risk of it not being true? Of course you would, so don’t pre-judge.
hi all just got back from my holiday.
i hope this is true. i would love to see the next chapter.
thanks phil for keeping us informed
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