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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Visually very cool. I didn't feel as though I got cheated out of the 6 bucks I paid to see the movie. Story wise, it was a shotgun approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Visually very cool. I didn&#8217;t feel as though I got cheated out of the 6 bucks I paid to see the movie. Story wise, it was a shotgun approach.</p>
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		<title>By: ChristopherNYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChristopherNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very hard not to be disappointed with this movie.  
I grew up with Transformers and this had very little of the spirit of the show.
I didn't expect anything more then the last movie which was passable at best.  
We could go through all the points, but let me say there was no reason this movie couldn't be smarter have a plot and have dialogue for the transformers beyond catch phrases.

Issues not mentioned:
Prime is a high moral leader, having smack talk a deception who is already defeated and then blow him away.
The movie is transformers, introduce the transformers in play and let them have the kills not the military.
Before someone yells its a kids movie, remember the number of graphic human deaths and sexual moments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very hard not to be disappointed with this movie.<br />
I grew up with Transformers and this had very little of the spirit of the show.<br />
I didn&#8217;t expect anything more then the last movie which was passable at best.<br />
We could go through all the points, but let me say there was no reason this movie couldn&#8217;t be smarter have a plot and have dialogue for the transformers beyond catch phrases.</p>
<p>Issues not mentioned:<br />
Prime is a high moral leader, having smack talk a deception who is already defeated and then blow him away.<br />
The movie is transformers, introduce the transformers in play and let them have the kills not the military.<br />
Before someone yells its a kids movie, remember the number of graphic human deaths and sexual moments.</p>
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		<title>By: GoGoGigantor</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoGoGigantor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I loved Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen and I'll defend it to the haters for as long as I can because, quite honestly, it's the same thing as the first film except larger in scale with more action."

Well, I couldn't stand the first one...so if this movie's just the first one with more bullshit...it's probably much worse. 20% on RT, and those are reviews by professional critics, not hackjob bloggers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I loved Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen and I&#8217;ll defend it to the haters for as long as I can because, quite honestly, it&#8217;s the same thing as the first film except larger in scale with more action.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, I couldn&#8217;t stand the first one&#8230;so if this movie&#8217;s just the first one with more bullshit&#8230;it&#8217;s probably much worse. 20% on RT, and those are reviews by professional critics, not hackjob bloggers.</p>
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		<title>By: Barachiel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barachiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty much summed up my feelings right there, Phil.  I loved this movie.  Was it a "good" movie, by Oscar standards?  Oh @#$! no!  But it was *fun*!

Personally, I laughed at the twins... and was kind of ashamed of it, because I found them annoying.  I honestly don't see how they can be called a racial stereotype, unless its against white people, because they radiated "redneck."  That was their joke.  Remember the Malloy Twins from Ocean's 11?  That's who these two yokels were supposed to emulate.  I won't say they succeeded, and I would have liked to have seen less of them in the film for more time with, say, Ironhide and Ratchet, but they did make me laugh, so mission accomplished.  

My next complaint lies with the roommate, who was *really* annoying in my book once we got past the first act.  He *really* needed to be toned down a notch.  Much like the "hacker team" in the first movie, you can remove him completely from the film... and nothing changes except you lose a couple of mediocre gags and a bunch of hysterics.

Finally, each act felt like a different part of a trilogy.  Act I was the college sitcom with terminator subplot.  Act II went off into a quick National Treasure adventure.  Finally Act III was Bay at his finest with action and drama and more explosions and badassery than I could shake a stick at.  Much like X-Men Origins: Wolverine, part of me feels the story might have been better served as a two parter.

Anywho, I enjoyed the crap out of this movie and can't wait to see it again.  Screw the critics.  I figured out long ago they exist purely to trash anything that doesn't belong to whatever genre/film-style they hold as sacred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty much summed up my feelings right there, Phil.  I loved this movie.  Was it a &#8220;good&#8221; movie, by Oscar standards?  Oh @#$! no!  But it was *fun*!</p>
<p>Personally, I laughed at the twins&#8230; and was kind of ashamed of it, because I found them annoying.  I honestly don&#8217;t see how they can be called a racial stereotype, unless its against white people, because they radiated &#8220;redneck.&#8221;  That was their joke.  Remember the Malloy Twins from Ocean&#8217;s 11?  That&#8217;s who these two yokels were supposed to emulate.  I won&#8217;t say they succeeded, and I would have liked to have seen less of them in the film for more time with, say, Ironhide and Ratchet, but they did make me laugh, so mission accomplished.  </p>
<p>My next complaint lies with the roommate, who was *really* annoying in my book once we got past the first act.  He *really* needed to be toned down a notch.  Much like the &#8220;hacker team&#8221; in the first movie, you can remove him completely from the film&#8230; and nothing changes except you lose a couple of mediocre gags and a bunch of hysterics.</p>
<p>Finally, each act felt like a different part of a trilogy.  Act I was the college sitcom with terminator subplot.  Act II went off into a quick National Treasure adventure.  Finally Act III was Bay at his finest with action and drama and more explosions and badassery than I could shake a stick at.  Much like X-Men Origins: Wolverine, part of me feels the story might have been better served as a two parter.</p>
<p>Anywho, I enjoyed the crap out of this movie and can&#8217;t wait to see it again.  Screw the critics.  I figured out long ago they exist purely to trash anything that doesn&#8217;t belong to whatever genre/film-style they hold as sacred.</p>
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		<title>By: Soran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked this movie.  I didn't love it like you did, but I did like it.  My thoughts on what you wrote are basically short and sweet -

1) The Twins are offensive - Maybe they are to people who it hits too close to home for, but the same people who called the twins offensive are the same jackholes who said that Episode I was a racist movie because the Trade Federation had Japanese/Chinese accents and Jar Jar was an ethnic slur.  Whatever.  It was a kids movie, he wanted them to have cute little accents.  Get over yourselves, people.  I did not like the fact that so much of the movie focussed on the Twins, because I thought they were boring, but they were not really offensive.

2) I was promised more robot dialogue and a little more character development, and I didn't get it.  That was what really kindof made me mad.  I wanted to see more of Shia's character growing into a relationship with Mikaela - that came off like a running gag.  "You didn't say you loved me"  "HA HA!"  Fneh.  I also wanted to see Ironhide talk about kicking ass in the past, and maybe see more humanizing for the robots - my biggest problem with these films is, except for Optimus and Megatron, all the robots do is react to what the humans do.  That's not the essense of Transformers - Transformers is about robots trying to command their own destinies and how they change as characters.  Or at least it should be.

3) This movie had a WILDLY uneven feel to it, much more so than the first film.  It was like one minute it was a sitcom, one minute it was an action film.  You could tell where Bay helped "write" the script after the strike started.  I hope he never writes again, personally.  

4) I thought it took too long to get anywhere.  I never felt in the first film like I was looking at my watch.  In this film I kept wondering when certain scenes were going to end (like with Jetfire in the desert and like with the setup for the battle in the desert.  Too damn long, not enough to keep it moving).  

Those were my four gripes.  They are small gripes.  I still liked the film.  I still walked out of the film smiling, which is all that it takes to make me happy.  I just was not as Wow'ed as I was by the first film.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked this movie.  I didn&#8217;t love it like you did, but I did like it.  My thoughts on what you wrote are basically short and sweet -</p>
<p>1) The Twins are offensive - Maybe they are to people who it hits too close to home for, but the same people who called the twins offensive are the same jackholes who said that Episode I was a racist movie because the Trade Federation had Japanese/Chinese accents and Jar Jar was an ethnic slur.  Whatever.  It was a kids movie, he wanted them to have cute little accents.  Get over yourselves, people.  I did not like the fact that so much of the movie focussed on the Twins, because I thought they were boring, but they were not really offensive.</p>
<p>2) I was promised more robot dialogue and a little more character development, and I didn&#8217;t get it.  That was what really kindof made me mad.  I wanted to see more of Shia&#8217;s character growing into a relationship with Mikaela - that came off like a running gag.  &#8220;You didn&#8217;t say you loved me&#8221;  &#8220;HA HA!&#8221;  Fneh.  I also wanted to see Ironhide talk about kicking ass in the past, and maybe see more humanizing for the robots - my biggest problem with these films is, except for Optimus and Megatron, all the robots do is react to what the humans do.  That&#8217;s not the essense of Transformers - Transformers is about robots trying to command their own destinies and how they change as characters.  Or at least it should be.</p>
<p>3) This movie had a WILDLY uneven feel to it, much more so than the first film.  It was like one minute it was a sitcom, one minute it was an action film.  You could tell where Bay helped &#8220;write&#8221; the script after the strike started.  I hope he never writes again, personally.  </p>
<p>4) I thought it took too long to get anywhere.  I never felt in the first film like I was looking at my watch.  In this film I kept wondering when certain scenes were going to end (like with Jetfire in the desert and like with the setup for the battle in the desert.  Too damn long, not enough to keep it moving).  </p>
<p>Those were my four gripes.  They are small gripes.  I still liked the film.  I still walked out of the film smiling, which is all that it takes to make me happy.  I just was not as Wow&#8217;ed as I was by the first film.</p>
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